. >> i bet you're right, bob, because 20% then you add on the obama healthcare, it is actually 3.8. >> the point is, it is not factored in with ordinary income or anywhere close to that. but nobody thinks that will happen. everyone thinks that will end up at 20 or 23.6%. >> nobody also was expecting that we wouldn't have a deal by year-end, right? >> i think that's right. >> i think it is strange -- >> what strange is that plan c everyone is discussing seems to be the old plan a which is essentially president obama's offer to increase taxes on top 2%, whether 400,000 or 500,000 and of some small spending changes. that seems to be all anybody is talking about right now. that may be all that we can get through. plan c seems to be the original plan a at this point. >> we are making our way through the alpha bet. thank you, guys. merry christmas, all. >> merry christmas. >> see you later. >> let's get to the nasdaq marketsite. seema mody. >> weighing here on the nasdaq on large cap tech shares, take a look at dell shares moving lower. research in motion continuing its plunge after losing